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Top 3 Financial Mistakes in my 20s (Please make one on a chosen decade for me to read)
I was on the YouTube site browsing videos about money and I found a great video where the host was explaining his story about financial mistakes made in his 20s. This inspired me to share my lessons learned from that decade. Now, I could probably write a book about all the mistakes I made. But who has time for that? Please enjoy my short and sweet top 3 mistakes below.
1. Bought a home with no money
To this day, this mistake still hurts. When I was in my early 20s, I bought a home with no money in the bank. I had a crappy job living paycheck to paycheck. I was somewhat aware of the threats of committing to the 30-year loan, so I decided to get two roommates. My thought was, their rent will cover the mortgage. With all these great plans what could go wrong? Here’s what happened in the first 30 days,
My garbage disposal broke: This isn’t a huge problem right? Well, it rendered my kitchen sink useless because the water wouldn’t drain. And keep in mind, I wasn’t one of those rich middle-class folk with two sinks in the kitchen. Also, this was before the days of YouTube. So I had no clue on how to change a garbage disposal. Nor was I willing to gamble with messing up the replacement unit that took me a week to purchase.
My hot water heater broke: I had to take cold showers in the Indiana winters for two weeks while I saved. Funny story, I decided to get a membership to a 24-hour gym to take hot showers while I saved enough money to pay a contractor.
Rent payments were late: One of my roommates wore baggy pants and did not have a bank account. So, he would cash his paycheck working construction for two weeks then and keep a huge stack of money in his back pocket. Gravity being unforgiving as it is, my dear roommate would consistently lose money due to his style of clothing and wouldn’t be able to pay rent on time.
Water Damage: A pipe burst in the thinly insulated garage and spewed water all over the ceiling. When drywall meets water they form an unscrupulous relationship and fuse into a nice heavy sponge of disaster. After some time, this will render mold. It’s a nice chaotic orgasm of Murphy’s law all over your life and the perfect example of what can go wrong when you are too poor, and in my case, ignorant to learn about the nuances of home ownership before diving right in.
2. Bought an impractical car with a loan
Here are some minor pointers while I lament on the many woes of the dumb car purchases of my past.
I bought a rear wheel drive muscle car in a state that snows. Not only was I sliding all over the place, but this handicap would cause me to be late for work. And thank God I never got into a wreck.
Because I was poor, I kept maximum coverage on my stupid metal depreciating mass since I could not afford to pay for any repairs if there was a wreck. Now, I acknowledge that my next statement is controversial, but I keep the bare minimum insurance coverage on my $3,000 12-year old Toyota Yaris. I do understand the risks and have taken measures to protect myself (I can elaborate if requested). The savings from this practice then gets converted into beautiful, succulent compound interest giving me super-human financial powers so great, that it would make a modern Marvel character blush. (But those who belong to this group already know this.)
Negative Compounding effect: Because I had an expensive muscle car, I got bad gas mileage, I had to spend more on big tires, my insurance rate was higher, the list goes on. Because this vehicle was all consuming, it was sucking too much money in the wrong direction.
3. Avoided Risk
On the surface, this doesn’t seem like it’s related to money. But hear me out, when you chase what’s comfortable you ultimately become soft and fluffy. I am not saying go after dangerous jobs or make hasty decisions without guidance. I am talking about doing something hard because it’s, you guessed it, hard. Or, taking a calculated risk because the payoff is aligned with your personal goal. You will grow out of adversity. You regress when you don’t challenge those precious muscle fibers.You see, I wanted a comfy white collar job where I worked behind a computer all day. I figured, I could have stability with that type of career. My ego liked the idea of using my brain for a living. So, I became a systems analyst for a large pharmaceutical company in the city. What that meant in practice was, I had an unhealthy sedentary life bending my back and sitting on my butt all day hunched over eating the fake preserved so called, “food” in the vending machine.Prepping for the early morning meetings was a nice event that kept me up at night. Each day, I sat in my car on my 40 minute commute, waiting in traffic, coping with the pressure of the stomach pain that accompanies diarrhea due to the tension of stress and possibly, too much coffee. When I got to work each morning, I would grab a toilet stall that wreaked of another poor soul who just crapped their brains out. As ounces of coffee violently escaped my body, all I could do is sit and wonder how many smelly particles of others fecal matter were entering my body as a result of this warm toilet seat.But at least I had stability right? Wrong! As I came to find out, I was the fool automating my job away with the software I was developing. Not to sound like a Luddite, but during the mandatory quarterly meetings it would be nice to see CEO’s show a graphical chart displaying stats employees really care about such as,
amount of hours employees spent at home with the family.
how many hours employees spent learning a new hobby.
how much money was given out via bonuses to the staff.
Instead, I got to hear about how a few millionaires became richer. As I grew the corporate ladder, I learned that my job became more about squeezing hours out of people who would be replaced by cheaper labor overseas, and or automation in the following year. So much for stability.So, in my early 30s, I quit corporate America and joined a startup tech company in the heart of Indianapolis. The job was intense. The company doubled its growth in a year, I had to learn or re-learn concepts on the fly and struggled to keep up. But I had more control to make decisions on my own or talk to different departments. And here’s the best part, the pay was 40% higher, each day was a new unconventional challenge and I grew as a consequence. The threat of losing my job was greater than the office position in corporate America, but I had a nice stash of cash as an insurance policy, so I could afford to gamble.Had I taken this risk earlier, perhaps my growth wouldn’t have been delayed. Stress still existed. But at the startup, I had more control over my destiny. It felt liberating as opposed to the tyrannical order I felt in the corporate world.Perhaps I’ll do another post like this once I exist my 30s. Thanks for reading!
[OC] What would rosters look like if you took the top 950+ players in WS/48 and put them on teams they grew up near?
If this seems familiar, I actually did a version with 700 players and minimum 15000 minutes played. I dropped the minutes requirement to 10000 to include players who spent most/all of their career in the ABA and players who burned bright but had injury troubles (Brandon Roy and Doug Collins). If you're not a fan of reading a lot of text, here's the imgur link to rosters, although you should know I added 25 new teams! There is a TL;DR at the bottom!
Inspiration
Ever since LeBron went back to Cleveland, it's always fascinated me on what rosters would look like if everyone went home. I did this during the shutdown for the current rosters (all 514 players that played a game in 2019-2020 before the shutdown plus Jusuf Nurkic, who would have returned had the season continued normally)!
Player Pool and Team Pool
I used the top 957 players who have at least 10000 minutes played in their career. Why 10000 minutes played? Because that's the lower standard set by Basketball-Reference to get on their ABA career leaderboard (15000 MP for NBA). I added George Mikan, because even though he hasn't played enough minutes, he's featured in All-Time ESPN NBARank and Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid. I started off with the current 30 teams. To split up the Lakers and Clippers, I gave the Clippers their proposed Inglewood site. As I looked at the map of player hometowns, I realized that there were:
some areas that had a lot of players, but few close NBA teams.
conversely, some areas that had bloated rosters with too many players
Based off city population and arena size, I added 25 new teams. I relaxed my arena restrictions (minimum capacity before was 10000).
I obviously had to give Seattle their team back
Birmingham, North Little Rock and Shreveport helped to split up the South
Pittsburgh and St. Louis were big cities without teams
Berkeley added to siphon off San Francisco
if I add Oakland, it takes away too many players
Anaheim and Westwood added in Southern California (Clippers & Lakers)
Winston-Salem and Raleigh to pare down Charlotte
Lansing to prune Detroit
2nd Atlanta team in suburb of College Park
2nd Washington team and Baltimore
2 more teams in Chicago (Rosemont and South Side) + a team in Gary
2nd Indiana team + Louisville & Lexington
2nd Philadelphia team in suburb of Wynnewood
3 more teams in the New York Area (Newark, Queens and Long Island)
New Teams:
Team
Arena (Capacity)
Notables
Anaheim Amigos
Honda Center (18336)
Kawhi Leonard, Reggie Miller, Bill Walton
Baltimore Bullets
Royal Farms Arena (12289)
Dominique Wilkins, Carmelo Anthony, Sam Cassell
Berkeley Bears
Haas Pavilion (11858)
Bill Russell, Damian Lillard, Paul Pierce
Birmingham Barons
Legacy Arena (17654)
Charles Barkley, Eric Bledsoe, Artis Gilmore
Capital City Go-Go
Entertainment and Sports Arena (4200)
Allen Iverson, Kevin Durant, Moses Malone
College Park Skyhawks
Gateway Center Arena (3500)
Dwight Howard, Josh Smith, Norm Nixon
Gary Steelheads
Genesis Convention Center (6500)
Shawn Kemp, Jack Sikma, Glenn Robinson
Indianapolis Jaguars
Indiana Farmers Coliseum (6800)
Jerry Lucas, Zach Randolph, John Paxson
Lansing Spartans
Breslin Student Events Center (14759)
Magic Johnson, Devin Booker, Draymond Green
Lexington Wildcats
Rupp Arena (20545)
Hal Greer, Neil Johnston, Dave Cowens
Long Island Knights
Nassau Coliseum (14500)
Julius Erving, Tobias Harris, Calvin Murphy
Louisville Colonels
KFC Yum Center (22090)
Larry Bird, Rajon Rondo, Wes Unseld
Newark Americans
Prudential Center (18711)
Kyrie Irving, Rick Barry, Shaquille O'Neal
North Little Rock RimRockers
Simmons Bank Arena (18000)
Scottie Pippen, Sidney Moncrief, Joe Johnson
Pittsburgh Ironmen
PPG Paints Arena (19100)
Pete Maravich, John Havlicek, Maurice Lucas
Queens Red Storm
Carnesecca Arena (5602)
Bob Cousy, Kemba Walker, Anthony Mason
Raleigh Cougars
PNC Arena (19722)
Michael Jordan, John Wall, Sam Jones
Rosemont Rush
Allstate Arena (17500)
Dan Issel, Shawn Marion, Bill Laimbeer
Seattle SuperSonics
KeyArena (18600)
John Stockton, Steve Nash, Detlef Schrempf
Shreveport Storm
CenturyLink Center (13000)
Karl Malone, Joe Dumars, Willis Reed
South Side Sky
Wintrust Arena (10387)
Dwyane Wade, Derrick Rose, Anthony Davis
Spirits of St. Louis
Enterprise Center (22000)
Bradley Beal, Andre Iguodala, Harry Gallatin
Westwood Bruins
Pauley Pavilion (13800)
Gilbert Arenas, Gail Goodrich, Jrue Holiday
Winston-Salem Demon Deacons
Lawrence Joel Coliseum (14665)
Jerry West, Chris Paul, Bob McAdoo
Wynnewood Hawks
Hagan Arena (4200)
Kobe Bryant, Wilt Chamberlain, Kyle Lowry
The Process
I started off gathering hometowns due to this fantastic database by Reuben Fischer-Baum (original article source here). But I wanted to get more granular, and try to pinpoint neighborhoods. Basically, I searched up "[player name] grew up neighbourhood" and variations of that, which is how I found out that:
Kyle Lowry grew up at 20th and Lehigh
Wilt Chamberlain grew up at 401 N Salford Street
Julius Erving grew up at 90 Pleasant Ave
big shoutout to Ted Silary's site, which was a godsend to divide Philly
Next, I used the haversine formula to find which arena a player is closest to
one exception was in Connecticut where the distance formula would go over Long Island Sound (a body of water), so all players east of Hartford were given to Boston
I created rotations to the best of my ability, but I am not proclaiming these as the be-all, end-all
I took a glance at stats (lean modern if stats are close) and playing reputation
I moved positions around to maximize talent, but tried to keep it realistic
Next phase was to add international players
I assigned them to their American “hometown" which was a combination of biggest impact (most win shares accumulated) and most memorable stop
These usually agreed w/each other, a few exceptions covered below
Dikembe, Divac were some borderline cases
Gave Dikembe to Atlanta over Denver (iconic upset against Seattle when in Denver, won 2 of his 4 DPOYS + had best per-minute impact in ATL)
Divac- Kings over Lakers (but he’s more known as a component of the fun early 2000s kings teams w/C-Webb, Peja, White Chocolate)
Don’t really see people talk about his stint as the bridge between Kareem and Shaq
And with that, here are the all-time hometown rosters including internationals in italics! (If you're more of a visual person, here's the imgur link where I also included regular season stats and career accolades)
Anaheim Amigos
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
darren collison
reggie miller
george yardley
kawhi leonard
bill walton
greg anthony
jim barnett
greg ballard
cliff levingston
mark eaton
paul neumann
jared dudley
bryon russell
keith van horn
bob rule
cj watson
adam keefe
steve johnson
scott williams
coby dietrick
Atlanta Hawks
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
walt frazier
dale ellis
shareef abdur-rahim
larry nance
dikembe mutombo
sedale threatt
lou williams
mike mitchell
horace grant
al horford
matt harpring
chris morris
harvey grant
dale davis
jeremy lamb
willie anderson
al-farouq aminu
jim fox
shandon anderson
alvin scott
jj hickson
kelvin cato
jodie meeks
zaza pachulia
Baltimore Bullets
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
sam cassell
reggie lewis
carmelo anthony
dominique wilkins
marvin webster
muggsy bogues
will barton
rudy gay
billy owens
gene shue
dudley bradley
reggie williams
dave twardzik
Berkeley Bears
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
gary payton
damian lillard
jason kidd
paul pierce
bill russell
lester conner
phil chenier
bruce bowen
paul silas
antonio davis
jon barry
brent barry
drew gooden
brook lopez
nate williams
cliff robinson
robin lopez
bison dele
Birmingham Barons
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
eric bledsoe
andrew toney
john drew
charles barkley
artis gilmore
wesley person
robert horry
antonio mcdyess
ben wallace
tr dunn
gerald wallace
larry kenon
theo ratliff
derrick mckey
clarence weatherspoon
leon douglas
reggie king
demarre carroll
buck johnson
Boston Celtics
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
dana barros
vinny del negro
vin baker
andre drummond
michael adams
rick mahorn
marcus camby
travis best
matt bonner
johnny egan
Brooklyn Nets
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
lenny wilkens
chris mullin
bernard king
connie hawkins
ray felix
stephon marbury
world b free
billy cunningham
rudy larusso
zaid abdul-aziz
carl braun
rolando blackman
roger brown
taj gibson
len elmore
mark jackson
vinnie johnson
doug moe
john salley
george thompson
jr smith
jim mcmillian
john roche
bob verga
walter simon
Capital City Go-Go
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
allen iverson
paul pressey
bob dandridge
kevin durant
moses malone
ty lawson
victor oladipo
walt williams
joe smith
alonzo mourning
gerald henderson
delonte west
allan bristow
ed davis
mark west
jarrett jack
dante cunningham
jr reid
Charlotte Hornets
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
stephen curry
ray allen
james worthy
kevin garnett
brad daugherty
darrell armstrong
david thompson
alex english
bobby jones
jermaine o'neal
sleepy floyd
walter davis
khris middleton
antawn jamison
hassan whiteside
jim cleamons
anthony morrow
xavier mcdaniel
trevor booker
clifford ray
anthony johnson
tyrone corbin
mikki moore
pervis ellison
bismack biyombo
Chicago Bulls
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
isiah thomas
jeff hornacek
mark aguirre
terry cummings
george mikan
doc rivers
hersey hawkins
luol deng
toni kukoc
joakim noah
patrick beverley
michael finley
andres nocioni
mickey johnson
nazr mohammed
corey maggette
jim brewer
luc longley
Cleveland Cavaliers
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
cj mccollum
michael redd
lebron james
charles oakley
nate thurmond
larry jones
kevin martin
james posey
gus johnson
zydrunas ilgauskas
antonio daniels
alvin robertson
ruben patterson
anderson varejao
eric snow
dick snyder
phil hubbard
tom boerwinkle
earl boykins
larry siegfried
kosta koufos
College Park Skyhawks
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
norm nixon
jeff malone
sam mitchell
josh smith
dwight howard
charlie ward
kentavious caldwell-pope
jae crowder
derrick favors
tree rollins
lloyd neal
elmore smith
wayne cooper
joe meriweather
Dallas Mavericks
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
deron williams
ricky pierce
dennis rodman
dirk nowitzki
chris bosh
mookie blaylock
marcus smart
willie naulls
larry johnson
lamarcus aldridge
micheal williams
damon jones
cj miles
kenyon martin
tony battie
spud webb
dave stallworth
julius randle
alton lister
jj barea
kurt thomas
greg ostertag
oliver miller
Denver Nuggets
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
chauncey billups
micheal ray richardson
danilo gallinari
paul millsap
nikola jokic
chuck williams
reggie jackson
scott wedman
james johnson
nene hilario
eric piatkowski
eduardo najera
pat garrity
Detroit Pistons
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
archie clark
steve smith
george gervin
chris webber
mel daniels
bj armstrong
ralph simpson
shane battier
dave debusschere
dan roundfield
paul seymour
jalen rose
campy russell
rudy tomjanovich
kevin willis
kelvin ransey
voshon lenard
steve mix
grant long
derrick coleman
johnny davis
terry tyler
terry mills
tim mccormick
jonas jerebko
Gary Steelheads
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
scott skiles
dick barnett
chet walker
shawn kemp
jack sikma
quinn buckner
kendall gill
glenn robinson
mason plumlee
craig hodges
junior bridgeman
eddy curry
rod higgins
Golden State Warriors
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
kc jones
phil smith
willie wise
kenny sears
rich kelley
jeremy lin
mickael pietrus
aaron gordon
red rocha
eddie house
tom meschery
darnell hillman
kurt rambis
andris biedrins
kevin restani
dennis awtrey
Houston Rockets
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
slater martin
clyde drexler
jimmy butler
hakeem olajuwon
yao ming
joe caldwell
rashard lewis
luis scola
deandre jordan
dwight jones
zelmo beaty
emeka okafor
kendrick perkins
chris andersen
Indiana Pacers
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
oscar robertson
dick van arsdale
gordon hayward
george mcginnis
clyde lovellette
louie dampier
kevin grevey
terry dischinger
alan henderson
rik smits
mike conley
jon mcglocklin
bojan bogdanovic
ian mahinmi
jeff teague
mike woodson
larry steele
jim price
courtney lee
randy wittman
bill keller
jerry sichting
Indianapolis Jaguars
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
john paxson
jim paxson
bonzi wells
jerry lucas
wayne embry
george hill
gary harris
zach randolph
kent benson
allen leavell
eric gordon
johnny green
jim davis
kyle macy
ron harper
goose ligon
john mengelt
Lansing Spartans
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
magic johnson
devin booker
morris peterson
draymond green
brad miller
dan majerle
jason richardson
loy vaught
javale mcgee
trent tucker
jay vincent
ben poquette
Lexington Wildcats
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
glen combs
hal greer
louis orr
neil johnston
dave cowens
freddie lewis
clem haskins
barry clemens
brian grant
arnie risen
george king
tyrone hill
dave robisch
jack coleman
chuck share
patrick patterson
lasalle thompson
Long Island Knights
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
calvin murphy
wally szczerbiak
julius erving
tobias harris
jeff ruland
foots walker
randy smith
charles smith
tom gugliotta
mike gminski
mike james
john williamson
danny green
frank brickowski
Los Angeles Clippers
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
russell westbrook
james harden
demar derozan
dave greenwood
swen nater
dennis johnson
bill sharman
tayshaun prince
curtis rowe
elden campbell
mack calvin
paul westphal
bob gross
andre miller
byron scott
josh childress
reggie theus
kyle korver
jan van breda kolff
brandon jennings
jay humphries
arron afflalo
Los Angeles Lakers
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
baron davis
michael cooper
paul george
sidney wicks
pau gasol
darwin cook
stacey augmon
marques johnson
mel hutchins
john block
lucious harris
cedric ceballos
amir johnson
darrall imhoff
tracy murray
trevor ariza
john williams
rick fox
dorell wright
Louisville Colonels
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
rajon rondo
frank ramsey
cliff hagan
larry bird
wes unseld
don buse
darel carrier
allan houston
les hunter
clyde lee
ted mcclain
derek anderson
greg smith
felton spencer
butch beard
greg buckner
chris whitney
Memphis Grizzlies
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
anfernee hardaway
adrian smith
corliss williamson
bailey howell
spencer haywood
tony delk
bingo smith
otto porter
michael cage
marc gasol
thaddeus young
sam lacey
terry catledge
lorenzen wright
popeye jones
Miami Heat
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
derek harper
mitch richmond
eddie jones
otis thorpe
rony seikaly
goran dragic
tim hardaway jr
raja bell
udonis haslem
neal walk
james jones
otto moore
Milwaukee Bucks
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
terry porter
fred brown
latrell sprewell
giannis antetokounmpo
andrew bogut
devin harris
wesley matthews
caron butler
ersan ilyasova
jim chones
nick van exel
carlos delfino
don kojis
carl landry
kevin kunnert
bill hanzlik
paul griffin
kurt nimphius
luc mbah a moute
Minnesota Timberwolves
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
ricky rubio
ron boone
harrison barnes
vern mikkelsen
kevin mchale
kirk hinrich
dick garmaker
mike miller
bob boozer
gorgui dieng
devean george
mark olberding
raef lafrentz
kris humphries
randy breuer
nick collison
joel przybilla
New Orleans Pelicans
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
dj augustin
kerry kittles
danny granger
bob pettit
demarcus cousins
mo williams
don chaney
purvis short
hot rod williams
al jefferson
avery johnson
mahmoud abdul-rauf
cincinnatus powell
brandon bass
greg monroe
chris duhon
bobby phills
reggie evans
george johnson
marcus thornton
glen davis
mike green
othella harrington
erick dampier
cornell warner
harvey catchings
New York Knicks
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
tiny archibald
charlie scott
metta world peace
dolph schayes
kareem abdul-jabbar
rod strickland
jeff mullins
tom sanders
tom heinsohn
patrick ewing
bobby wanzer
mario elie
jamal mashburn
elton brand
sam perkins
vern fleming
david west
billy paultz
olden polynice
Newark Americans
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
kyrie irving
bob weiss
rick barry
troy murphy
shaquille o'neal
brian taylor
kelly tripucka
al harrington
karl-anthony towns
larry brown
eric williams
tim thomas
andrew bynum
al attles
kenneth faried
chris gatling
brevin knight
nenad krstic
mark bryant
eric murdock
North Little Rock RimRockers
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
derek fisher
sidney moncrief
scottie pippen
larry smith
caldwell jones
joe johnson
glen rice
wil jones
joe barry carroll
eddie miles
ronnie brewer
anthony tolliver
andrew lang
fred jones
charles jones
Oklahoma City Thunder
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
mark price
john starks
thabo sefolosha
blake griffin
alvan adams
darnell valentine
craig ehlo
maurice evans
serge ibaka
steven adams
jim king
wayman tisdale
enes kanter
antoine carr
Orlando Magic
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
dee brown
tracy mcgrady
vince carter
amare stoudemire
darryl dawkins
chucky atkins
otis birdsong
hedo turkoglu
truck robinson
nikola vucevic
eddie johnson (78-87)
evan fournier
chandler parsons
red robbins
matt geiger
carlos arroyo
marreese speights
will perdue
kwame brown
clemon johnson
Philadelphia 76ers
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
jameer nelson
earl monroe
paul arizin
larry foust
samuel dalembert
bill melchionni
geoff petrie
tyreke evans
warren davis
chris dudley
chris ford
michael kidd-gilchrist
jim washington
jason thompson
matt guokas
ollie johnson
ray scott
malik rose
Phoenix Suns
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
fat lever
leandro barbosa
richard jefferson
sean elliott
channing frye
mike bibby
jerryd bayless
arthur becker
kenny thomas
Pittsburgh Ironmen
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
norm van lier
pete maravich
john havlicek
armen gilliam
maurice lucas
brad davis
billy knight
jack twyman
len chappell
pat cummings
johnny moore
stu lantz
jack marin
ron williams
george king
Portland Trail Blazers
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
terrell brandon
klay thompson
nicolas batum
kevin love
arvydas sabonis
damon stoudamire
danny ainge
mike dunleavy jr
ac green
mychal thompson
steve jones
terrence ross
mel counts
mike newlin
dave gambee
Queens Red Storm
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
bob cousy
richie guerin
lamar odom
anthony mason
leroy ellis
kemba walker
gus williams
mike riordan
ed pinckney
tom owens
dick mcguire
ben gordon
rodney mccray
bob kauffman
kenny anderson
brian winters
malik sealy
charlie villanueva
kenny smith
ray williams
maurice harkless
rafer alston
ernie grunfeld
Raleigh Cougars
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
john wall
michael jordan
cedric maxwell
buck williams
walt bellamy
nate mcmillan
sam jones
jerome kersey
pj tucker
randy denton
phil ford
bryant stith
jerry stackhouse
chris wilcox
john lucas
ml carr
chucky brown
ramon sessions
rodney rogers
henry bibby
Rosemont Rush
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
flynn robinson
nick anderson
shawn marion
dan issel
bill laimbeer
shaun livingston
anthony parker
robert covington
bob netolicky
dave corzine
don nelson
aaron williams
Sacramento Kings
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
kevin johnson
matt barnes
omri casspi
peja stojakovic
vlade divac
beno udrih
francisco garcia
ryan anderson
bill cartwright
jim eakins
james donaldson
chuck hayes
San Antonio Spurs
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
tony parker
manu ginobili
robert reid
tim duncan
rasho nesterovic
david wesley
marco belinelli
bo outlaw
boris diaw
luke jackson
patty mills
bill bridges
jeff foster
Seattle SuperSonics
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
john stockton
steve nash
detlef schrempf
carlos boozer
byron beck
isaiah thomas
brandon roy
doug christie
marvin williams
james edwards
nate robinson
jason terry
martell webster
vladimir radmanovic
steve hawes
mario chalmers
jamal crawford
mike lewis
luke ridnour
rodney stuckey
blair rasmussen
Shreveport Storm
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
jimmy jones
joe dumars
calvin natt
karl malone
willis reed
james silas
orlando woolridge
elvin hayes
robert parish
bob love
benoit benjamin
john beasley
pj brown
stromile swift
ervin johnson
South Side Sky
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
derrick rose
dwyane wade
cazzie russell
juwan howard
anthony davis
maurice cheeks
tony allen
eddie johnson(81-99)
bill robinzine
red kerr
tim hardaway
quentin richardson
ron anderson
jason maxiell
rickey green
sonny parker
bobby simmons
kevin porter
darrell walker
Spirits of St. Louis
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
jo jo white
bradley beal
andre iguodala
harry gallatin
ed macauley
lucius allen
donnie freeman
jerry sloan
david lee
gene moore
andy phillip
warren jabali
bill bradley
laphonso ellis
steve stipanovich
tyronn lue
doug collins
alec burks
jon koncak
anthony peeler
kevin gamble
bob ferry
john brown
Toronto Raptors
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
larry costello
george carter
clifford robinson
tristan thompson
bob lanier
jose calderon
cory joseph
christian laettner
jonas valanciunas
kelly olynyk
jamaal magloire
andray blatche
danny schayes
walter dukes
Utah Jazz
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
joe ingles
andrei kirilenko
tom chambers
rudy gobert
fred roberts
mehmet okur
phil jackson
shawn bradley
Washington Wizards
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
steve francis
adrian dantley
grant hill
elgin baylor
david robinson
sherman douglas
dave bing
dennis scott
thurl bailey
ralph sampson
gene littles
austin carr
jerome williams
kenny carr
roy hibbert
johnny dawkins
dell curry
danny ferry
kermit washington
marcin gortat
hubert davis
jeff green
jerami grant
curtis perry
john battle
michael smith
john tresvant
Westwood Bruins
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
gilbert arenas
gail goodrich
chris mills
kiki vandeweghe
tyson chandler
jrue holiday
steve kerr
jamaal wilkes
lonnie shelton
chris childs
austin croshere
Winston-Salem Demon Deacons
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
chris paul
jerry west
josh howard
happy hairston
bob mcadoo
jason williams
lou hudson
johnny newman
danny manning
brendan haywood
bobby jackson
jj redick
george lynch
jimmy walker
rod thorn
Wynnewood Hawks
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
kyle lowry
kobe bryant
richard hamilton
rasheed wallace
wilt chamberlain
walt hazzard
aaron mckie
tom gola
donyell marshall
sam bowie
alvin williams
cuttino mobley
roy hinson
marcus morris
tom mcmillen
bob sura
mike bantom
markieff morris
mike gale
gene banks
trooper washington
hakim warrick
Best Positional Groups (in my opinion)
(in reverse alphabetical order) Best Guards: Winston-Salem, South Side, Seattle, Queens, LA Clippers, Indiana Best Wings: Washington, North Little Rock, Long Island, Baltimore, Brooklyn, Charlotte Best Bigs: Shreveport, Portland, New York, Houston, Detroit, Dallas, Birmingham
TL;DR
What did you do?
Created all-time hometown/territorial rosters
Why did you do it?
always been fascinated with it ever since Bron came home
Who did you use?
player pool was top 957 in career ws/48 (min 10000 mp) from basketball-reference, plus George Mikan (listed in ESPN's AllTime NBARank and Bill Simmons Basketball Pyramid but didn't meet the minutes requirement)
team pool was originally 30 teams, added more teams where there were an abundance of players
New Teams:
Team
Notables
Anaheim Amigos
Kawhi, Reggie, Bill Walton
Baltimore Bullets
Dominique, Melo
Berkeley Bears
Bill Russell, Dame, Paul Pierce
Birmingham Barons
Barkley, Eric Bledsoe, Artis Gilmore
Capital City Go-Go
AI, KD, Moses
College Park Skyhawks
Dwight Howard, Josh Smith
Gary Steelheads
Shawn Kemp, Sikma
Indianapolis Jaguars
Jerry Lucas, Zach Randolph
Lansing Spartans
Magic, D-Book, Draymond
Lexington Wildcats
Hal Greer, Cowens
Long Island Knights
Dr J, Tobias Harris
Louisville Colonels
Bird, Rondo, Unseld
Newark Americans
Kyrie, Rick Barry, Shaq
North Little Rock RimRockers
Pippen, Sidney Moncrief, Iso Joe
Pittsburgh Ironmen
Pistol Pete, Havlicek
Queens Red Storm
Cousy, Kemba
Raleigh Cougars
Michael Jordan, John Wall
Rosemont Rush
Shawn Marion, Laimbeer
Seattle SuperSonics
Stockton, Steve Nash, Schrempf
Shreveport Storm
Mailman, Dumars, Willis Reed
South Side Sky
Dwyane Wade, D-Rose, Anthony Davis
Spirits of St. Louis
Beal, Iguodala
Westwood Bruins
Arenas, Jrue
Winston-Salem Demon Deacons
Logo, CP3
Wynnewood Hawks
Kobe, Wilt, Lowry
How did you do it?
Googled "[player name] grew up neighbourhood" and variations of that
[OC] What would rosters look like if you took the top 950+ players in WS/48 and put them on teams they grew up near?
If this seems familiar, I actually did a version with 700 players and minimum 15000 minutes played. I dropped the minutes requirement to 10000 to include players who spent most/all of their career in the ABA and players who burned bright but had injury troubles (Brandon Roy and Doug Collins). If you're not a fan of reading a lot of text, here's the imgur link to rosters, although you should know I added 25 new teams! There is a TL;DR at the bottom!
Inspiration
Ever since LeBron went back to Cleveland, it's always fascinated me on what rosters would look like if everyone went home. I did this during the shutdown for the current rosters (all 514 players that played a game in 2019-2020 before the shutdown plus Jusuf Nurkic, who would have returned had the season continued normally)!
Player Pool and Team Pool
I used the top 957 players who have at least 10000 minutes played in their career. Why 10000 minutes played? Because that's the lower standard set by Basketball-Reference to get on their ABA career leaderboard (15000 MP for NBA). I added George Mikan, because even though he hasn't played enough minutes, he's featured in All-Time ESPN NBARank and Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid. I started off with the current 30 teams. To split up the Lakers and Clippers, I gave the Clippers their proposed Inglewood site. As I looked at the map of player hometowns, I realized that there were:
some areas that had a lot of players, but few close NBA teams.
conversely, some areas that had bloated rosters with too many players
Based off city population and arena size, I added 25 new teams. I relaxed my arena restrictions (minimum capacity before was 10000).
I obviously had to give Seattle their team back
Birmingham, North Little Rock and Shreveport helped to split up the South
Pittsburgh and St. Louis were big cities without teams
Berkeley added to siphon off San Francisco
if I add Oakland, it takes away too many players
Anaheim and Westwood added in Southern California (Clippers & Lakers)
Winston-Salem and Raleigh to pare down Charlotte
Lansing to prune Detroit
2nd Atlanta team in suburb of College Park
2nd Washington team and Baltimore
2 more teams in Chicago (Rosemont and South Side) + a team in Gary
2nd Indiana team + Louisville & Lexington
2nd Philadelphia team in suburb of Wynnewood
3 more teams in the New York Area (Newark, Queens and Long Island)
New Teams:
Team
Arena (Capacity)
Notables
Anaheim Amigos
Honda Center (18336)
Kawhi Leonard, Reggie Miller, Bill Walton
Baltimore Bullets
Royal Farms Arena (12289)
Dominique Wilkins, Carmelo Anthony, Sam Cassell
Berkeley Bears
Haas Pavilion (11858)
Bill Russell, Damian Lillard, Paul Pierce
Birmingham Barons
Legacy Arena (17654)
Charles Barkley, Eric Bledsoe, Artis Gilmore
Capital City Go-Go
Entertainment and Sports Arena (4200)
Allen Iverson, Kevin Durant, Moses Malone
College Park Skyhawks
Gateway Center Arena (3500)
Dwight Howard, Josh Smith, Norm Nixon
Gary Steelheads
Genesis Convention Center (6500)
Shawn Kemp, Jack Sikma, Glenn Robinson
Indianapolis Jaguars
Indiana Farmers Coliseum (6800)
Jerry Lucas, Zach Randolph, John Paxson
Lansing Spartans
Breslin Student Events Center (14759)
Magic Johnson, Devin Booker, Draymond Green
Lexington Wildcats
Rupp Arena (20545)
Hal Greer, Neil Johnston, Dave Cowens
Long Island Knights
Nassau Coliseum (14500)
Julius Erving, Tobias Harris, Calvin Murphy
Louisville Colonels
KFC Yum Center (22090)
Larry Bird, Rajon Rondo, Wes Unseld
Newark Americans
Prudential Center (18711)
Kyrie Irving, Rick Barry, Shaquille O'Neal
North Little Rock RimRockers
Simmons Bank Arena (18000)
Scottie Pippen, Sidney Moncrief, Joe Johnson
Pittsburgh Ironmen
PPG Paints Arena (19100)
Pete Maravich, John Havlicek, Maurice Lucas
Queens Red Storm
Carnesecca Arena (5602)
Bob Cousy, Kemba Walker, Anthony Mason
Raleigh Cougars
PNC Arena (19722)
Michael Jordan, John Wall, Sam Jones
Rosemont Rush
Allstate Arena (17500)
Dan Issel, Shawn Marion, Bill Laimbeer
Seattle SuperSonics
KeyArena (18600)
John Stockton, Steve Nash, Detlef Schrempf
Shreveport Storm
CenturyLink Center (13000)
Karl Malone, Joe Dumars, Willis Reed
South Side Sky
Wintrust Arena (10387)
Dwyane Wade, Derrick Rose, Anthony Davis
Spirits of St. Louis
Enterprise Center (22000)
Bradley Beal, Andre Iguodala, Harry Gallatin
Westwood Bruins
Pauley Pavilion (13800)
Gilbert Arenas, Gail Goodrich, Jrue Holiday
Winston-Salem Demon Deacons
Lawrence Joel Coliseum (14665)
Jerry West, Chris Paul, Bob McAdoo
Wynnewood Hawks
Hagan Arena (4200)
Kobe Bryant, Wilt Chamberlain, Kyle Lowry
The Process
I started off gathering hometowns due to this fantastic database by Reuben Fischer-Baum (original article source here). But I wanted to get more granular, and try to pinpoint neighborhoods. Basically, I searched up "[player name] grew up neighbourhood" and variations of that, which is how I found out that:
Kyle Lowry grew up at 20th and Lehigh
Wilt Chamberlain grew up at 401 N Salford Street
Julius Erving grew up at 90 Pleasant Ave
big shoutout to Ted Silary's site, which was a godsend to divide Philly
Next, I used the haversine formula to find which arena a player is closest to
one exception was in Connecticut where the distance formula would go over Long Island Sound (a body of water), so all players east of Hartford were given to Boston
I created rotations to the best of my ability, but I am not proclaiming these as the be-all, end-all
I took a glance at stats (lean modern if stats are close) and playing reputation
I moved positions around to maximize talent, but tried to keep it realistic
Next phase was to add international players
I assigned them to their American “hometown" which was a combination of biggest impact (most win shares accumulated) and most memorable stop
These usually agreed w/each other, a few exceptions covered below
Dikembe, Divac were some borderline cases
Gave Dikembe to Atlanta over Denver (iconic upset against Seattle when in Denver, won 2 of his 4 DPOYS + had best per-minute impact in ATL)
Divac- Kings over Lakers (but he’s more known as a component of the fun early 2000s kings teams w/C-Webb, Peja, White Chocolate)
Don’t really see people talk about his stint as the bridge between Kareem and Shaq
And with that, here are the all-time hometown rosters including internationals in italics! (If you're more of a visual person, here's the imgur link where I also included regular season stats and career accolades)
Anaheim Amigos
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
darren collison
reggie miller
george yardley
kawhi leonard
bill walton
greg anthony
jim barnett
greg ballard
cliff levingston
mark eaton
paul neumann
jared dudley
bryon russell
keith van horn
bob rule
cj watson
adam keefe
steve johnson
scott williams
coby dietrick
Atlanta Hawks
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
walt frazier
dale ellis
shareef abdur-rahim
larry nance
dikembe mutombo
sedale threatt
lou williams
mike mitchell
horace grant
al horford
matt harpring
chris morris
harvey grant
dale davis
jeremy lamb
willie anderson
al-farouq aminu
jim fox
shandon anderson
alvin scott
jj hickson
kelvin cato
jodie meeks
zaza pachulia
Baltimore Bullets
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
sam cassell
reggie lewis
carmelo anthony
dominique wilkins
marvin webster
muggsy bogues
will barton
rudy gay
billy owens
gene shue
dudley bradley
reggie williams
dave twardzik
Berkeley Bears
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
gary payton
damian lillard
jason kidd
paul pierce
bill russell
lester conner
phil chenier
bruce bowen
paul silas
antonio davis
jon barry
brent barry
drew gooden
brook lopez
nate williams
cliff robinson
robin lopez
bison dele
Birmingham Barons
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
eric bledsoe
andrew toney
john drew
charles barkley
artis gilmore
wesley person
robert horry
antonio mcdyess
ben wallace
tr dunn
gerald wallace
larry kenon
theo ratliff
derrick mckey
clarence weatherspoon
leon douglas
reggie king
demarre carroll
buck johnson
Boston Celtics
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
dana barros
vinny del negro
vin baker
andre drummond
michael adams
rick mahorn
marcus camby
travis best
matt bonner
johnny egan
Brooklyn Nets
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
lenny wilkens
chris mullin
bernard king
connie hawkins
ray felix
stephon marbury
world b free
billy cunningham
rudy larusso
zaid abdul-aziz
carl braun
rolando blackman
roger brown
taj gibson
len elmore
mark jackson
vinnie johnson
doug moe
john salley
george thompson
jr smith
jim mcmillian
john roche
bob verga
walter simon
Capital City Go-Go
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
allen iverson
paul pressey
bob dandridge
kevin durant
moses malone
ty lawson
victor oladipo
walt williams
joe smith
alonzo mourning
gerald henderson
delonte west
allan bristow
ed davis
mark west
jarrett jack
dante cunningham
jr reid
Charlotte Hornets
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
stephen curry
ray allen
james worthy
kevin garnett
brad daugherty
darrell armstrong
david thompson
alex english
bobby jones
jermaine o'neal
sleepy floyd
walter davis
khris middleton
antawn jamison
hassan whiteside
jim cleamons
anthony morrow
xavier mcdaniel
trevor booker
clifford ray
anthony johnson
tyrone corbin
mikki moore
pervis ellison
bismack biyombo
Chicago Bulls
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
isiah thomas
jeff hornacek
mark aguirre
terry cummings
george mikan
doc rivers
hersey hawkins
luol deng
toni kukoc
joakim noah
patrick beverley
michael finley
andres nocioni
mickey johnson
nazr mohammed
corey maggette
jim brewer
luc longley
Cleveland Cavaliers
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
cj mccollum
michael redd
lebron james
charles oakley
nate thurmond
larry jones
kevin martin
james posey
gus johnson
zydrunas ilgauskas
antonio daniels
alvin robertson
ruben patterson
anderson varejao
eric snow
dick snyder
phil hubbard
tom boerwinkle
earl boykins
larry siegfried
kosta koufos
College Park Skyhawks
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
norm nixon
jeff malone
sam mitchell
josh smith
dwight howard
charlie ward
kentavious caldwell-pope
jae crowder
derrick favors
tree rollins
lloyd neal
elmore smith
wayne cooper
joe meriweather
Dallas Mavericks
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
deron williams
ricky pierce
dennis rodman
dirk nowitzki
chris bosh
mookie blaylock
marcus smart
willie naulls
larry johnson
lamarcus aldridge
micheal williams
damon jones
cj miles
kenyon martin
tony battie
spud webb
dave stallworth
julius randle
alton lister
jj barea
kurt thomas
greg ostertag
oliver miller
Denver Nuggets
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
chauncey billups
micheal ray richardson
danilo gallinari
paul millsap
nikola jokic
chuck williams
reggie jackson
scott wedman
james johnson
nene hilario
eric piatkowski
eduardo najera
pat garrity
Detroit Pistons
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
archie clark
steve smith
george gervin
chris webber
mel daniels
bj armstrong
ralph simpson
shane battier
dave debusschere
dan roundfield
paul seymour
jalen rose
campy russell
rudy tomjanovich
kevin willis
kelvin ransey
voshon lenard
steve mix
grant long
derrick coleman
johnny davis
terry tyler
terry mills
tim mccormick
jonas jerebko
Gary Steelheads
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
scott skiles
dick barnett
chet walker
shawn kemp
jack sikma
quinn buckner
kendall gill
glenn robinson
mason plumlee
craig hodges
junior bridgeman
eddy curry
rod higgins
Golden State Warriors
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
kc jones
phil smith
willie wise
kenny sears
rich kelley
jeremy lin
mickael pietrus
aaron gordon
red rocha
eddie house
tom meschery
darnell hillman
kurt rambis
andris biedrins
kevin restani
dennis awtrey
Houston Rockets
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
slater martin
clyde drexler
jimmy butler
hakeem olajuwon
yao ming
joe caldwell
rashard lewis
luis scola
deandre jordan
dwight jones
zelmo beaty
emeka okafor
kendrick perkins
chris andersen
Indiana Pacers
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
oscar robertson
dick van arsdale
gordon hayward
george mcginnis
clyde lovellette
louie dampier
kevin grevey
terry dischinger
alan henderson
rik smits
mike conley
jon mcglocklin
bojan bogdanovic
ian mahinmi
jeff teague
mike woodson
larry steele
jim price
courtney lee
randy wittman
bill keller
jerry sichting
Indianapolis Jaguars
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
john paxson
jim paxson
bonzi wells
jerry lucas
wayne embry
george hill
gary harris
zach randolph
kent benson
allen leavell
eric gordon
johnny green
jim davis
kyle macy
ron harper
goose ligon
john mengelt
Lansing Spartans
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
magic johnson
devin booker
morris peterson
draymond green
brad miller
dan majerle
jason richardson
loy vaught
javale mcgee
trent tucker
jay vincent
ben poquette
Lexington Wildcats
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
glen combs
hal greer
louis orr
neil johnston
dave cowens
freddie lewis
clem haskins
barry clemens
brian grant
arnie risen
george king
tyrone hill
dave robisch
jack coleman
chuck share
patrick patterson
lasalle thompson
Long Island Knights
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
calvin murphy
wally szczerbiak
julius erving
tobias harris
jeff ruland
foots walker
randy smith
charles smith
tom gugliotta
mike gminski
mike james
john williamson
danny green
frank brickowski
Los Angeles Clippers
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
russell westbrook
james harden
demar derozan
dave greenwood
swen nater
dennis johnson
bill sharman
tayshaun prince
curtis rowe
elden campbell
mack calvin
paul westphal
bob gross
andre miller
byron scott
josh childress
reggie theus
kyle korver
jan van breda kolff
brandon jennings
jay humphries
arron afflalo
Los Angeles Lakers
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
baron davis
michael cooper
paul george
sidney wicks
pau gasol
darwin cook
stacey augmon
marques johnson
mel hutchins
john block
lucious harris
cedric ceballos
amir johnson
darrall imhoff
tracy murray
trevor ariza
john williams
rick fox
dorell wright
Louisville Colonels
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
rajon rondo
frank ramsey
cliff hagan
larry bird
wes unseld
don buse
darel carrier
allan houston
les hunter
clyde lee
ted mcclain
derek anderson
greg smith
felton spencer
butch beard
greg buckner
chris whitney
Memphis Grizzlies
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
anfernee hardaway
adrian smith
corliss williamson
bailey howell
spencer haywood
tony delk
bingo smith
otto porter
michael cage
marc gasol
thaddeus young
sam lacey
terry catledge
lorenzen wright
popeye jones
Miami Heat
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
derek harper
mitch richmond
eddie jones
otis thorpe
rony seikaly
goran dragic
tim hardaway jr
raja bell
udonis haslem
neal walk
james jones
otto moore
Milwaukee Bucks
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
terry porter
fred brown
latrell sprewell
giannis antetokounmpo
andrew bogut
devin harris
wesley matthews
caron butler
ersan ilyasova
jim chones
nick van exel
carlos delfino
don kojis
carl landry
kevin kunnert
bill hanzlik
paul griffin
kurt nimphius
luc mbah a moute
Minnesota Timberwolves
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
ricky rubio
ron boone
harrison barnes
vern mikkelsen
kevin mchale
kirk hinrich
dick garmaker
mike miller
bob boozer
gorgui dieng
devean george
mark olberding
raef lafrentz
kris humphries
randy breuer
nick collison
joel przybilla
New Orleans Pelicans
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
dj augustin
kerry kittles
danny granger
bob pettit
demarcus cousins
mo williams
don chaney
purvis short
hot rod williams
al jefferson
avery johnson
mahmoud abdul-rauf
cincinnatus powell
brandon bass
greg monroe
chris duhon
bobby phills
reggie evans
george johnson
marcus thornton
glen davis
mike green
othella harrington
erick dampier
cornell warner
harvey catchings
New York Knicks
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
tiny archibald
charlie scott
metta world peace
dolph schayes
kareem abdul-jabbar
rod strickland
jeff mullins
tom sanders
tom heinsohn
patrick ewing
bobby wanzer
mario elie
jamal mashburn
elton brand
sam perkins
vern fleming
david west
billy paultz
olden polynice
Newark Americans
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
kyrie irving
bob weiss
rick barry
troy murphy
shaquille o'neal
brian taylor
kelly tripucka
al harrington
karl-anthony towns
larry brown
eric williams
tim thomas
andrew bynum
al attles
kenneth faried
chris gatling
brevin knight
nenad krstic
mark bryant
eric murdock
North Little Rock RimRockers
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
derek fisher
sidney moncrief
scottie pippen
larry smith
caldwell jones
joe johnson
glen rice
wil jones
joe barry carroll
eddie miles
ronnie brewer
anthony tolliver
andrew lang
fred jones
charles jones
Oklahoma City Thunder
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
mark price
john starks
thabo sefolosha
blake griffin
alvan adams
darnell valentine
craig ehlo
maurice evans
serge ibaka
steven adams
jim king
wayman tisdale
enes kanter
antoine carr
Orlando Magic
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
dee brown
tracy mcgrady
vince carter
amare stoudemire
darryl dawkins
chucky atkins
otis birdsong
hedo turkoglu
truck robinson
nikola vucevic
eddie johnson (78-87)
evan fournier
chandler parsons
red robbins
matt geiger
carlos arroyo
marreese speights
will perdue
kwame brown
clemon johnson
Philadelphia 76ers
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
jameer nelson
earl monroe
paul arizin
larry foust
samuel dalembert
bill melchionni
geoff petrie
tyreke evans
warren davis
chris dudley
chris ford
michael kidd-gilchrist
jim washington
jason thompson
matt guokas
ollie johnson
ray scott
malik rose
Phoenix Suns
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
fat lever
leandro barbosa
richard jefferson
sean elliott
channing frye
mike bibby
jerryd bayless
arthur becker
kenny thomas
Pittsburgh Ironmen
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
norm van lier
pete maravich
john havlicek
armen gilliam
maurice lucas
brad davis
billy knight
jack twyman
len chappell
pat cummings
johnny moore
stu lantz
jack marin
ron williams
george king
Portland Trail Blazers
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
terrell brandon
klay thompson
nicolas batum
kevin love
arvydas sabonis
damon stoudamire
danny ainge
mike dunleavy jr
ac green
mychal thompson
steve jones
terrence ross
mel counts
mike newlin
dave gambee
Queens Red Storm
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
bob cousy
richie guerin
lamar odom
anthony mason
leroy ellis
kemba walker
gus williams
mike riordan
ed pinckney
tom owens
dick mcguire
ben gordon
rodney mccray
bob kauffman
kenny anderson
brian winters
malik sealy
charlie villanueva
kenny smith
ray williams
maurice harkless
rafer alston
ernie grunfeld
Raleigh Cougars
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
john wall
michael jordan
cedric maxwell
buck williams
walt bellamy
nate mcmillan
sam jones
jerome kersey
pj tucker
randy denton
phil ford
bryant stith
jerry stackhouse
chris wilcox
john lucas
ml carr
chucky brown
ramon sessions
rodney rogers
henry bibby
Rosemont Rush
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
flynn robinson
nick anderson
shawn marion
dan issel
bill laimbeer
shaun livingston
anthony parker
robert covington
bob netolicky
dave corzine
don nelson
aaron williams
Sacramento Kings
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
kevin johnson
matt barnes
omri casspi
peja stojakovic
vlade divac
beno udrih
francisco garcia
ryan anderson
bill cartwright
jim eakins
james donaldson
chuck hayes
San Antonio Spurs
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
tony parker
manu ginobili
robert reid
tim duncan
rasho nesterovic
david wesley
marco belinelli
bo outlaw
boris diaw
luke jackson
patty mills
bill bridges
jeff foster
Seattle SuperSonics
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
john stockton
steve nash
detlef schrempf
carlos boozer
byron beck
isaiah thomas
brandon roy
doug christie
marvin williams
james edwards
nate robinson
jason terry
martell webster
vladimir radmanovic
steve hawes
mario chalmers
jamal crawford
mike lewis
luke ridnour
rodney stuckey
blair rasmussen
Shreveport Storm
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
jimmy jones
joe dumars
calvin natt
karl malone
willis reed
james silas
orlando woolridge
elvin hayes
robert parish
bob love
benoit benjamin
john beasley
pj brown
stromile swift
ervin johnson
South Side Sky
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
derrick rose
dwyane wade
cazzie russell
juwan howard
anthony davis
maurice cheeks
tony allen
eddie johnson(81-99)
bill robinzine
red kerr
tim hardaway
quentin richardson
ron anderson
jason maxiell
rickey green
sonny parker
bobby simmons
kevin porter
darrell walker
Spirits of St. Louis
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
jo jo white
bradley beal
andre iguodala
harry gallatin
ed macauley
lucius allen
donnie freeman
jerry sloan
david lee
gene moore
andy phillip
warren jabali
bill bradley
laphonso ellis
steve stipanovich
tyronn lue
doug collins
alec burks
jon koncak
anthony peeler
kevin gamble
bob ferry
john brown
Toronto Raptors
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
larry costello
george carter
clifford robinson
tristan thompson
bob lanier
jose calderon
cory joseph
christian laettner
jonas valanciunas
kelly olynyk
jamaal magloire
andray blatche
danny schayes
walter dukes
Utah Jazz
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
joe ingles
andrei kirilenko
tom chambers
rudy gobert
fred roberts
mehmet okur
phil jackson
shawn bradley
Washington Wizards
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
steve francis
adrian dantley
grant hill
elgin baylor
david robinson
sherman douglas
dave bing
dennis scott
thurl bailey
ralph sampson
gene littles
austin carr
jerome williams
kenny carr
roy hibbert
johnny dawkins
dell curry
danny ferry
kermit washington
marcin gortat
hubert davis
jeff green
jerami grant
curtis perry
john battle
michael smith
john tresvant
Westwood Bruins
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
gilbert arenas
gail goodrich
chris mills
kiki vandeweghe
tyson chandler
jrue holiday
steve kerr
jamaal wilkes
lonnie shelton
chris childs
austin croshere
Winston-Salem Demon Deacons
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
chris paul
jerry west
josh howard
happy hairston
bob mcadoo
jason williams
lou hudson
johnny newman
danny manning
brendan haywood
bobby jackson
jj redick
george lynch
jimmy walker
rod thorn
Wynnewood Hawks
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
kyle lowry
kobe bryant
richard hamilton
rasheed wallace
wilt chamberlain
walt hazzard
aaron mckie
tom gola
donyell marshall
sam bowie
alvin williams
cuttino mobley
roy hinson
marcus morris
tom mcmillen
bob sura
mike bantom
markieff morris
mike gale
gene banks
trooper washington
hakim warrick
Best Positional Groups (in my opinion)
(in reverse alphabetical order) Best Guards: Winston-Salem, South Side, Seattle, Queens, LA Clippers, Indiana Best Wings: Washington, North Little Rock, Long Island, Baltimore, Brooklyn, Charlotte Best Bigs: Shreveport, Portland, New York, Houston, Detroit, Dallas, Birmingham
TL;DR
What did you do?
Created all-time hometown/territorial rosters
Why did you do it?
always been fascinated with it ever since Bron came home
Who did you use?
player pool was top 957 in career ws/48 (min 10000 mp) from basketball-reference, plus George Mikan (listed in ESPN's AllTime NBARank and Bill Simmons Basketball Pyramid but didn't meet the minutes requirement)
team pool was originally 30 teams, added more teams where there were an abundance of players
New Teams:
Team
Notables
Anaheim Amigos
Kawhi, Reggie, Bill Walton
Baltimore Bullets
Dominique, Melo
Berkeley Bears
Bill Russell, Dame, Paul Pierce
Birmingham Barons
Barkley, Eric Bledsoe, Artis Gilmore
Capital City Go-Go
AI, KD, Moses
College Park Skyhawks
Dwight Howard, Josh Smith
Gary Steelheads
Shawn Kemp, Sikma
Indianapolis Jaguars
Jerry Lucas, Zach Randolph
Lansing Spartans
Magic, D-Book, Draymond
Lexington Wildcats
Hal Greer, Cowens
Long Island Knights
Dr J, Tobias Harris
Louisville Colonels
Bird, Rondo, Unseld
Newark Americans
Kyrie, Rick Barry, Shaq
North Little Rock RimRockers
Pippen, Sidney Moncrief, Iso Joe
Pittsburgh Ironmen
Pistol Pete, Havlicek
Queens Red Storm
Cousy, Kemba
Raleigh Cougars
Michael Jordan, John Wall
Rosemont Rush
Shawn Marion, Laimbeer
Seattle SuperSonics
Stockton, Steve Nash, Schrempf
Shreveport Storm
Mailman, Dumars, Willis Reed
South Side Sky
Dwyane Wade, D-Rose, Anthony Davis
Spirits of St. Louis
Beal, Iguodala
Westwood Bruins
Arenas, Jrue
Winston-Salem Demon Deacons
Logo, CP3
Wynnewood Hawks
Kobe, Wilt, Lowry
How did you do it?
Googled "[player name] grew up neighbourhood" and variations of that
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